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This is what it says about him:

‘When he went up to the highest place,
he led many prisoners with him.
Then he gave gifts to his people.’[a]

It says: ‘He went up.’ That must mean that Christ had also come down. He came down to a lower place, the earth. 10 So the man who came down is also the man who went up, high above all the heavens. He did that so that he would fill everything everywhere.

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Footnotes

  1. 4:8 This is like Psalms 68:18. Or it may have been a song that the Christians sang. Christ takes things from his enemies and he gives them to his own people.